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Inconsistencies :One Man's Opinion

By Ben Meisner

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 03:44 AM

        If you have five people testify that an event took place in the manner they describe and they are consistent and on the other hand you have one person, who by the way has a very serious vested interest  describe the events in another manner , who would you believe?

Common sense would suggest that you believe the five people with no vested interest.  When you look at the Kevin St Arnaud shooting death that simply didn’t happen.


Staff Sergeant John Ward of the Media Relations Wing of the RCMP’s "E" Division says it is not unusual to have five different people give five different descriptions of the event.

I wonder aloud then why the RCMP would bother to have witnesses?

In the future, we should pick the witness that has the testimony we like the best and put them on the stand. Wait a minute could we do that in the case of St. Arnaud?  After all, the star witness was a fellow RCMP officer with considerably more experience than the officer who shot St Arnuad.  Hold on, the additional "inconsistency" came from a fellow police officer who testified about the blood patterns, those patterns being consistent with a person standing not lunging toward the police officer as the shooter had suggested. Or should we accept the testimony of a private citizen who said he watched St. Arnaud turn around, with his hands raised in the air after the officer chased him into a field? Now that just happens to be consistent with the testimony of the police officer who witnessed the shooting.

Then there is the matter of how the bullets entered St Arnaud’s body at a 30 to 45 degree downward angle. Sorry, you can’t change that inconsistency.

Pardon me, yes you can.

It’s that one bit of evidence that the Coroner wouldn’t let in.  The officer in charge of the investigation wanted to bring in some drawings that show how it might be possible to have someone shoot in a downward angle while laying down. The Coroner asked "Are you producing the witness, so that they can be cross examined?"  The reply, "No" so quite properly Coroner  Shane DeMeyer didn’t allow that testimony. Seems reasonable or should you allow the investigating officer to put forward any evidence that he feels should be introduced without benefit of cross examination or would that cross examination be considered an "inconsistency"? 

If that is the pitch of not allowing evidence into the Coroners inquest, I’m smiling.

Now the final question must be asked, just what did Constable Sheremetta  stand to gain in his testimony to the Coroners inquest, would you consider that impartial Staff Sergeant Ward?

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion. 
    


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The RCMP have a tough job to do. Sometimes a split second decision is all they have, and unfortunately - sometimes they make the wrong decision. I would not want to be under the pressure they are under every day. Again I will reiterate, better screening, better training, better standards. Pride, Integrity, Honor, and Guts.

It's not over yet. Those (kids) who are of voting and drinking age, yet choose to use slingshots on innocent passersby, and those who have recently been caught toting realistic looking toy guns.... Parents - are you aware of what your children are doing? Do you care? If they live in your home you have the right to insist they make better choices.

So then mothers can raise their children to be better police officers too? As a mother of three and one of these children is Kevin St. Arnaud's daughter keep in mind, i have a few words to say. Last night at 11:00 (can't sleep like always) I watched the report for the second time. Staff Sgt. said he didnt agree with our story about the lighting in the soccer field. Was he there? ever once did he attend one day at the inquest? Well I dont agree with the picture they had sketched. It showed Kevins left hand in his pocket and fact shows his right hand was bandaged from an injury at work. The inquest told us that he was carrying a white plastic grocery bag? Does Kevin have a third hand to carry this bag? how would it fit over a bandaged hand (handle holes are pretty small I know this) and how could he carry it with the other hand in pocket? Can someone please tell me what happened to the white bag? Did he drop it along the way? You guys mock the truth so I get to mock your picture. Nice try. Make us all happy and get ryan off the payroll. Make room for the better cops. We don't need him when there are other cops out there with more common sense, pride, warmer hearts and integrity. If you dont question him again one day and do whats right then I guess he'll still be working when my daughter Leah is old enough to get married and she can look him in the eyes crying why did you take my daddy away? Or when she graduates or just when she wants to hold his hand walking through the park. Please people don't forget what really matters here. I love the good police officers who do their jobs. Just because some make it through the six month course or however long it is doesnt mean they are smart enough to wear the badge. Kevin didn't deserve to die. Until it happens to your family you'll never know the pain. Heidi Robinson.
I'm so sorry for your loss Heidi. I don't understand it all either. I wonder what the heck kids with sling shots has to do with and irresponsible police officer shooting and unarmed man. Not to mention their parents. Lets stick to the story here. There were witness to this incident as well as proof this officer lied to cover his own butt, even his fellow officer didn't cover for him. These people are trained to be observant and to serve and protect, not say oops I made a mistake. Not acceptable. And poor Mrs. Bush is next. How sad.
(The inquest has heard St. Arnaud didn’t have a weapon. His right hand was bandaged, and he was carrying a white plastic grocery bag) I knew i'd find the white bag if I read long enough here's the site: http://www.nathancullen.ca/news/inquest-testimony-worries-mp

p.s. snappi you're sweet thanks :)
News flash: "Teenage brains are baffling because they are under construction. It seems they grow and change until about age 25." My sister found this article interesting and so do I. Ryan Sheremetta was 22 when he shot and killed Kevin St. Arnaud.
Sticking to the facts is a good idea. For everyone. Those who were not there can only form opinions, just like mine...but just because I form one doesn't mean I'm right!! Based on what Heidi says and the pattern of the wounds and blood stains, I wonder if Keven was in the process of "falling down" when he was shot.

Heidi, you can re-write the events a million times in your mind to try and make sense of what went wrong, but it will still never make any sense. My heart is with you in your pain, I too lost someone (my beloved brother) because of a purely stupid stupid mistake on someone else's part. I chose a long time ago to mourn him without bitterness. Pain helps you heal, but bitterness eats you. The man who accidently killed him suffered every day of his life for his mistake, he wished a catrillion million times to have one lousy stinking second back, but it could never to be.

And Snappi, sling shots and toy guns that look real just might cause more of the above. Who will we blame if that happens?

Badges do not belong on bullies. Cops have a tough job to do. Cops make mistakes and kill people, Cops make mistakes and Get Killed. This whole situation sucks, as does Ian Bush's situation. These are my opinions. Slam dunk me if you want, or just post your own.
You are right whynotyou and sorry about your brother, really am. That is why the other night I was at it again googling away and came across this beautiful lady in California. The strength and power in her expression is so inspiring so I signed her guest book and she emailed me back saying she'd love to set up a "Memorial site for Kevin." So I thought why not do it myself as I love to fiddle around with stuff like that and it would mean a lot to me and so if there is anyone else out there feel free to check out what I have put together so far. I don't mind sharing my life. http://www.myspace.com/heidisstory
and here is that beautiful lady i was telling you about Mesha http://www.myspace.com/ISFOUNDATION
Bitterness does eat you up i need to smarten up anxiety is killing me...sigh i'm way too stubborn. :) Thanks whynotyou.