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Just What Was In Those CN Tanker Cars? One Man's Opinion

By Ben Meisner

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 03:45 AM

        

If you look at the picture of the CN train collision in Prince George on the weekend, you will notice in the picture taken at 10:33 am by an alert PG resident that the tank cars are still all attached to the CN train that slammed into the lumber train creating an explosion and then a fire of major proportions.

If you check the other pictures you will also see that it took some time to uncouple the tank cars from the burning trains, at least an hour and  half after the initial collision.

If you then check with what came out of the Command Post put together to protect the people of South Fort George, you will also notice that while people were being told by police to stay back one half mile from the blaze, no one was telling either the  residents or the media to inform or warn residents within 288 meters of the burning inferno that the cars behind those on fire contained hazardous products.

 We have learned that CN brass arrived on the scene with the manifest for the train of tank cars, but did not tell the, “command “post what was in them. Deputy Fire Chief John Lane says "We didn’t then or now, know what was contained in those tank cars, because they were moved away from the scene after they had been uncoupled." 

Now let’s just suppose that the fire had spread to them before a heroic effort by a CN employee to uncouple them.

What was in those cars?  We were told at first that at least one contained methanol, we also were told that the tank car that did not burn contained diesel or gasoline.

We were told that the gasoline tanker acted in the proper manner, the gas began to boil and the venting system let it burn off.

If the Transport Safety Board says we must stay at least ½ mile away from such a scene, then why didn’t someone inform police to move the crowd back? They weren’t in charge they were there doing their job (traffic and crowd control) and it was up to the ‘command “post to tell them what to do.

So  four days later,  we still don’t know what was in those other cars.  Was it hazardous?  Did it pose a risk to the people of the city and if so, to what extent?  If for example one of those cars contained propane, what would the effects be of an explosion?

Someone over at city hall had better do a bit of digging to see where the ball was dropped.

As for CN they had better change their approach which is to keep their mouth shut unless forced open by some governing body.

Ultimately the governing body is the Canadian Government, and  last time I  checked that would be "us".  We were not informed.  

With  residents and emergency personnel 288 metres  from ground zero,  cars burning and more attached,  maybe CN can tell us just when does it  no longer become a "need to know" situation?

I’m Meisner and that’s one man's opinion.  


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A very good point Ben!
I don't think there ANYBODY home at city hall.
Maybe they left town in a hurry?
Great leadership to say the least!
Ben people can be told to move back or evacuate but they cannot be forced. Same applies to an approaching forest fire.

I also find it interesting that we haven't heard one peep out of city hall. Colin wakey wakey. It wouldn't have anything to do with him supporting the libs. when BCR was sold would it, naw.
Proof that your government is run by and for the multinationals that fund the parties and politicians alike....

I predict you will not hear a word of this from any of our local Council, Mayor, MLA's, or MP's. They will not bite the hand that feeds them.
All governments in all capitalistic countries are run by capital and the multinationals. To think otherwise is unrealistic.

The Golden Rule states correctly that those who have the gold rule.
Very well written Ben. Why are you one of the only people in the media to speak the truth and quote facts. I also agree with Chadermando's statement regarding the absence of comment from PG's City Council, the Mayor, our MLA's and MP's, all or most who were in support of the demise of BC Rail.
I listened to an interview on CBC Radio One's morning program, Daybreak North, this morning (August 8) when Chris Walker questioned Kelli Svendsen about the latest CN Rail wreck in Prince George and it was obvious the "powers that be" had instructed her to say nothing of importance to the media. I could hear the frustration in Chris Walker's voice.
I sincerely believe that CN Rail believes they are above and beyond the laws that govern our land. I have heard it said that the Railway Act is the strongest Act ever passed by the Government of Canada.
In conclusion, I would like to state that I worked on a section crew for CN during the summer of 1986 and without doubt, they were the worst employer I ever worked for in the 46 years of employment, prior to my retirement this year.
Keep up the good work, Ben!
Did the Bird Dog call in the wrong identification numbers on the tank car initially to cause more concern than originally thought?

Why couldn't CN provide the identification numbers of the tank cars and their contents involved to the Fire Department when asked?

You can only go with what you are told. You can only respond based on the information you are given. One tank cars contents can be approached, another will require immediate evacuation of an extended area. Don't criticize anyone until you hear all sides of the story. Chester
It's the media remember? Anyone who takes their word for the gospel would probably buy oceanfront in Arizona. They will always put their personal slant on everything and never allow the facts to get in the way of a good story.
The railroads are not government-regulated anymore, they regulate themselves.

I think "bad idea."

Transport Canada had most of their teeth pulled years ago.

Corporations do not have to have a conscience to make money.
"The media .... will always put their personal slant on everything and never allow the facts to get in the way of a good story."

Sort of like when you tell a story, eh TUTB?

The media published this story .... must be wrong then, eh TUTB?

{url]http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/08/08/bc-cn.html[/url]

"The Transportation Safety Board is launching a full-fledged investigation into last weekend's fiery derailment of a CN train after a collision with another train in Prince George, B.C.

A board spokesman said Wednesday that investigators on the scene have found material that's prompted the move to gather and analyze data for an all-out investigation."

Looks like at the least questionable, unsafe practices.