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Value of Gravel?

By 250 News

Monday, September 17, 2007 04:15 AM

            

Gravel extracted from the Exhibition grounds is piled high at the site of the new intermodal  site on the CN  rail yard

Opinion250 has filed a freedom of information request with the City Of Prince George seeking all of the documents related to the handing over of the gravel near the CN center to the Outdoor Ice Oval Society who subsequently sold the gravel to a constriction company who in turn sold the aggregate to CN for the construction of the intermodal yard in the CN yards.

The Outdoor Ice Oval Society received approval from the city in the form of a letter granting them the right to the gravel on the site.

No terms or conditions are apparently included in that letter as to how that gravel was to be handled.

The pile of aggregate shown in the 250 photo includes product that is being blended with the gravel from other sources and to this point  it is not known just how much the company doing the excavation actually removed from the ice oval site.

There is also the matter of how the Society received the original approval after the city council had deferred the request only to have the matter decided without ever returning to Council.

The Society is now before City Council seeking a further maximum  of $50,000 dollars to construct infrastructure.

The Society says it expects to receive upwards of $44,000 from an agreement to receive $2.00 per cubic meter of the gravel sold.

Construction experts say that the gravel was worth about $6.00 per cubic meter  at the site (4.50 a cubic yd) .  They say the gravel in question  should fetch between $12 and $15 dollars per cubic meter at the CN Yard .

So far the society has placed no value on the gravel they have received apart from saying that they feel they have received a good deal.

In view of the fact that the gravel was in the city inventory and had considerable value, Opinion250 is seeking to find out just what the aggregate was worth and how the agreement took place.



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I totally support this investigation as at present it would appear that the city is doing big time favoritism to this one organization. I personally have pulled any support to them as I can't even get a straight answer from the society on what is going on, plus they dropped the ice rink in the middle of the facility.
I've said it before but, man it must be nice to have the city on side! Just wish it would happen for something besides, of all things, an ice oval!
$6, $12, $15 a cubic metre? - let's say it's worth an even $10.

They must have mined 22,000 cubic metres to yield the $44 grand royalty to the 'Society' (at $2 a metre).

That's $8 a metre ($176k) of (so far) unaccounted for taxpayer value.

How much of that did IDL pocket, or CN?

Did ANY of this transaction get papered by Supply Services?
It is very easey to determine the amount of gravel extracted if the idiots at ice oval thought to take some elevation shots before the start of excavation.I think this is outright theft of taxpayers property and somebody including the soooo smart guys at city hall should be charged and face the music...
Why bitch anymore...we should know better, this council does whatever they want when they want!
Looks like they are developing a toboggan run ... wonder if they have a permit for that in the middle of an industrial property ......

;-)
I know ... they saw that unblievable deal on gravel, and they have the site to store it, so they will be selling it from there at a high profit so that they can pay for the annual cost of the naming rights for the CN Centre ....

;-)
It's the plane!!! It's the plane!!!!

...... it's the 200 year flood plane ...

;-)
Well I suppose they could take the additional $50,000 being requested from the $176,000 'unaccounted for' monies that Moses refers to....
Let's not forget that City monies are "after tax" dollars collected from us so you have to add an average of 30% to this amount.

I'm curious about how much the City pays for gravel used in City projects when we could get it for free from projects like this one.
so much money for so few users
Obviously the term "dirt cheap" should be banned from now on.
No one "dropped the rink in the middle of the facility". Get your facts straight.

If so many people are up in arms over the rink why is the line so short to help out making the ice?? Nothing worse than whiners who want everything from volunteers and won't help out themselves... unbelievable.