IS the heating of four buildings (possibly 5 or 6 eventually) really going to offset the $8.3M cost ? Factoring in yearly operational costs ?

I wonder.

WHO IS RUNNING THIS CITY, FORNARI OR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL??? WAKE UP COUNCIL, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS RED HERRING TO BE BUILT DOWNTOWN. THE AIR DOWN HERE IS BAD ENOUGH AND ALL OF YOUR SPIN ABOUT TRADING ONE CHUNK OF CARBON FOR ANOTHER WON'T CUT IT. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND QUIT TRYING TO FAST FORWARD YOUR PITIFUL ADGENDA. YOU ARE TRYING TO PAINT YOURSELF GREEN BUT YOU ARE ALL COLOR BLIND.

I BET THAT THE CITY HASN'T INCLUDED THE COST OF DIGGING UP THE DOWNTOWN STREETS IN THE $8.3 MIL BUDGET. THAT WILL PROBABLY COME OUT OF THE STREETS BUDGET. I GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO YEARS BEFORE WE SEE ANY STREET UPGRADES OR PATCHING.

I firmly believe that this is an excellent project. The cost savings of this project in the long run will be significant and pollution from this plant will be minimal. The city of Prince George really does have an opportunity to be a leader in alternative energy and this may be the first of many projects of its kind.

YOU ARE RIGHT BETTERDAY, BUT WHY IN THE DOWNTOWN WHERE THE AIR IS ALREADY THICK ENOUGH TO CUT SOME DAYS?

Betterday, very few people are questioning whether it is a good idea or not to burn readily available bio-mass to generate energy which is otherwise obtained from burning fossil fuels!

The main argument is about the location! Why place any new pollution sources into the downtown, of all places?

The wood waste must be trucked in to the plant and the fine particulates emissions will contribute to the already rated as *Canada's worst* polluted downtown.

The plant can be located miles out of town, close to a highway and power line. The electricity that it generates can be fed into the grid and gradually ALL buildings downtown can be converted to electric heating!

Now, what I don't understand is why the Mayor keeps pushing this idea and why the City council doesn't act in the interest of making the downtown less polluted.

The argument that *some wood stoves* will be converted is purely based on something that may happen or may never happen.

If it doesn't happen, will somebody pay a penalty? Not on your life!

How about placing the plant outside of the already polluted airshed AND giving people a cash incentive to convert their polluting old style wood burning stoves at the same time?

Is there anything wrong with that?

It needs to be downtown, or close to the facilities that it will provide the energy (in the form of hot water) to. At least that is the way that I read it.
www.city.pg.bc.ca/city_services/utilities/communityenergy/

Biomass is turned (by burning) at the pulpmills into steam and then into electricity, just to give an example.

Hot water can be made by the use of electricity. The electricity can be produced by a plant that is located outside of the downtown.

The only reason why the new powerplant needs to be downtown is because the people that want it there are determined to put it there, no matter what anybody says.

Good luck with the added fine particulate matter!

Over and out!

So far there has been lots of hype about the heating plant. How about a few specifics from council, such as the btu's of heat to be produced, What happens to the plant in the summer months when there is only water for the swimming pool to heat. How much actual biomass in pounds or kilograms per hour will be consumed per hour at full firing rate, not some song and dance about a B train every 3 or 4 days. What is the anticipated moisture content of the biomass. What about fuel storage, covered or uncovered. How is blue haze going to be handled during start up when flue gas are cool.
Seems spending 8.3 million dollars to have a net saving $200,000.00 per year after operating costs is unbelievable. Only PG would come up with some fool hardy plan with a never, never pay back. The other question is the old city yards were to be sold to pay for the new city yards. Has council conveniently forgotten about this. Seems someone at city hall is on the payroll and if this plant goes away so does his or her job.

Come on all you young energetic people in PG. Run for council. It is time for a massive change.

What if all the hookers in the Millar Addition eventually come down with emphysema, then you will be sorry. Maybe a class action lawsuit down the road. Ya heard it here first.

Resident has it right. We need a lot more information on this project, however in simplistic terms it is a moronic idea.

The reason the City doesnt want this facility built outside the City is that it then falls under the jurisdiction of the Regional District and the Provincial Government and the City wouldnt get the $8.5 Million to contract out. If the City doesnt get the money, then they have no interest in the project.

The City personel have racked their pea sized brains to come up with a green project that would meet the criteria to access funds from the Provincial and Federal Governments. This co-gen project is the pea brain solution. Not only is the City out of line for proposing such a project, our local MLA'S and MP'S are complicite in supplying the money. They originally hoped to get some of this money for the new Cameron St. Bridge but couldnt green it enough to meet the criteria.

The City will now try and run heavy traffic through South Fort George on Queenway to lower Patricia Blvd with an overpass to River Road and an expanded road up to the Cameron St.Bridge, and because they are still $2 Million short on funds for the Cameron St Bridge they will try to access the Provincial Government for the $2 Million under the guise that the road and improvements will inhance the CN Reload Centre and the Port of Prince George BC, and the money can be given under the Provincial and Federal Gateway Funds.

There are no hard facts that the CN Reload will have any significant effect in Prince George. At best we will maintain the status quo, and therefore there is no reason to build the overpass, or inhance the road.

Its all about spending money and contracts, and has nothing to do with common sense.