Update: Crash Leaves Woman Seriously Injured

Friday, March 28, 2008 08:49 AM

RCMP set out markers to reconstruct crash

Prince George, B.C.- Opinion 250 has learned the female pedestrian injured in a crash this morning, is confirmed to be a CNC student.

"The counselling department is dealing with students, and the RCMP is investigating." says Marketing and Enrollment Manager Steve Raper.

The student is in critical condition in hospital.

RCMP say the female pedestrian was hit at 15^th and Lyon Streets about 7:38 this morning.

The east bound lane of 15^th is closed as police have a traffic reconstructionist, and a traffic analyst on the scene.

The female was hit by a one ton delivery van around 7:38 this morning..

The Commercial Vehicle Inspection team responded to the scene to see if the van was over loaded. The van has now been towed and is undergoing a mechanical inspection which Police say is normal procedure in this type of investigation.

Police have ruled out alcohol as a factor, and are now investigating to establish the speed of the van.

There is no controlled cross walk at the scene of the crash
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 08:49 AM in News by 250 News

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Posted by: Death to Socialism on March 28 2008 10:13 AM

Not saying this applies to this incident, but pedestrians need to stop walking arrogantly out into traffic because it's their "right of way". In a collision between a pedestrian & a car the outcome is obvious. I'd rather be "wronged" than dead.

Posted by: REALIST on March 28 2008 10:22 AM

Too true especially teens. Parents remind your kids please.

Posted by: Anastasia on March 28 2008 11:02 AM

I hope she recovers, and may the poor driver not have life long memories of this unfortunate accident!!

"All Pedistrians" regardless of age/gender/race need not to jaywalk!! and if you are going to do so, do it quickly and when it is safe!!

Pedistrians drive me crazy thinking it is their right to cross the street whereever they want and EXPECT the world to come to a screeching halt for them to saunter across the street!!

Posted by: DPJ on March 28 2008 11:16 AM

and natives (not trying to be racist but I see lots of natives jaywalking)

Posted by: Death to Socialism on March 28 2008 11:24 AM

The absolute worst, DPJ. They are actually aggressive about it. Think 15th by the library &, of course, 5th & George were the appear magically from behind parked vans.

Posted by: Death to Socialism on March 28 2008 11:34 AM

Quick ammendment to my post. I'm refering to the downtown "tribe" NOT natives in general.

Posted by: ammonra on March 28 2008 12:01 PM

Isn't it interesting how people's hangups distort reality. A news item about a female CNC student of undetermined race is converted into complaints about natives. Of course, we all know that nobody is being racist.

Posted by: Death to Socialism on March 28 2008 12:10 PM

Yawn.... We were discussing how not to get killed walking.

Posted by: thereasonableman on March 28 2008 12:58 PM

There is no crosswalk, and he didn't travel far from where she was struck. He probably didn't see her in time and she, for some reason, must've not seen him. I don't suspect he was overloaded or speeding.

I hope she recovers completely.

* There was a pedestrian-controlled crosswalk right behind her. This was unfortunate.

Posted by: owl on March 28 2008 1:07 PM

When I look at the skid marks and the location of the items the pedestrian must have been carrying, I see the following:

1. the easily visible skid marks are behind the rear wheel and not in front, thus it was not a combined skid mark with front tires.

2. some of the items the pedestrain was carrying are strewn behind the skid marks.

3. The materials in front of the rear wheels likely indicates the the general area of where the pedestrian ended up being thrown to or dragged to.

I look at the possible conclusion to be:

The truck did not apply the breaks (or apply them with major force) until after the person was hit.

So, if that is true, the question would have to be why?

1. truck driver did not have eyes on road and activity?

2. pedestrian did not have eye on road and was inatentive?

Posted by: acrider54 on March 28 2008 1:46 PM

Most pedestrians don't even look before they cross the road at a marked or unmarked crossing. Teens are the worst, just drive by PGSS they think it's their right just to jump out in front of you and slowly walk across the street after giving you the bird and glaring at you. No cross walk just jaywalk anywhere.

Posted by: rambleon on March 28 2008 3:24 PM

I'd say the VAST majority of pedestrians look both ways before they cross the street. It's just that you SEE the ones that don't because they're jumping in front of your car!

Posted by: thereasonableman on March 28 2008 3:36 PM

Owl, it appears the driver smashed the brakes very soon after impact (split second). The distance travelled by the vehicle is about what I would expect to see, at the posted speed. I believe she was hit by the right front of the vehicle and launched to where you see the pile of blankets and such, which is where she likely landed. This distance is about what I would expect to find at the normal speed.

I'd guess she ran out and didn't see him coming.

Posted by: justamom on March 28 2008 4:22 PM

Speaking from experience. The shocking reality of the situation could have caused the drivers delayed reaction to hitting the breaks-and only applying them on impact.

Posted by: SusieButow on March 28 2008 6:23 PM

DPJ and Death to Socialism: Shame on you for your ignorant and ridiculous comments about native peoples.

Open your eyes and see that all different types of people from all different racial status' and socioeconomic status' jaywalk. How awful that this young girl is fighting for her life because she chose to cross the road at the wrong time and the wrong place. The tragedy has nothing whatsover to do with her background and your comments only serve to make you seem boorish and upset the rest of us.

Posted by: Iceburger on March 28 2008 6:48 PM

Yes, pedestrians who feel that they own the road IS an issue... regardless of race.
Also an issue are drivers who are too distracted by life, cell phones, cigarettes, or what have you to do a good job driving.
Lets start taking some responsibility people... I see carelessness and lack of respect in everything.
I do not own a cell phone, nor smoke, or visit while I am driving... I DRIVE while I'm driving.
When I am out walking I pay attention to everything that is around me... I do not assume that the person who has their blinkers on are actually turning... I WAIT until they turn.
It's my life and no one can safeguard it as I can... same with you and yours!
I am praying for both families tonight.

Posted by: trueblue2 on March 28 2008 7:16 PM

Right on Susie Butow! I couldn't believe, as reading the posts, that those comments had gone without objection for so long. But then again....

Posted by: YamaDooPolCat on March 28 2008 8:59 PM

SusieButowtrueblue2.. take a drive in the areas mentioned. How would you describe for us these aggressive jay walkers?

1.62 meters tall, about 70 kg, long dark hair and lots of them. Is that OK? That way you are not offended, and the rest of us know these jay walkers are from the tribes that roam those area. They pop out on the road just to make traffic stop! Some stare pretty hard but I put on a big grin and rev the engine. They move on eventually.

Posted by: trueblue2 on March 28 2008 10:15 PM

That was just sick.

Posted by: getajob on March 28 2008 11:39 PM

Hmm it happens ....i must say that, i have at one time not looked while walking out on a street.. I am certain she never chose to me runover! It can happen to any of us! Driving a vehicle requires that we take extra caution, be more alert of our surroundings. So in a way it can be the drivers fault. Sad regardless of how, who or why.

Posted by: Iceburger on March 29 2008 12:06 AM

Posted by: Iceburger on March 29 2008 9:30 AM

Posted by: Death to Socialism on March 29 2008 9:57 AM

How convenient it must be to cry racism whenever your delicate sensibilities are upset. Anyone who regularly drives downtown knows exactly who & what I was refering to.
Some of us actually live have to & work in the real world & when one of these idiots finally gets hit some innocent driver will have to shoulder the blame.

Posted by: Iceburger on March 29 2008 12:07 PM

Sorry for the multiple posts... call it a learning curve!

Posted by: DPJ on March 29 2008 3:31 PM

that must happen when you leave the page up for a while and then post a comment. If someone else posts in that time, 2 posts of the some person comes up. Happened to me in the past.

Posted by: ammonra on March 29 2008 10:55 PM

Convenience has absolutely nothing to do with crying racism. Racism is cried when racism is met. Live with it and expect it, or stop doing it. It's your choice.

Race, height, type of clothes, skin color, hair style, social standing and lots of other stuff have NOTHING to do with being hit by a car. Walking in front of one does.

Using a news item like this to make ignorantly disparaging remarks about someone's race IS racist.

Posted by: trueblue2 on March 29 2008 11:30 PM

Thank you ammonra

Posted by: rambleon on March 30 2008 1:15 PM

It seems one of the most dangerous mistakes drivers commonly make is to stop on a road to let a pedestrian cross where there is NOT a crosswalk. I see this on the bypass all the time, luckily I've never seen someone hit. A car in the outside lane tries to be helpful and stops to let a person cross the road, the person darts across the street and upcoming traffic in the inside lane from behind does not expect a person to cross the road, and can't see them behind the stopped car.

DO NOT STOP to allow people waiting on the side of the street to cross if they are not at a crosswalk. It's extremely dangerous.

Being that this girl was hit in the middle of the street, I can't help but wonder if this is what happened here. However, being that the van was headed eastbound, and the girl most likely headed toward CNC, possibly not.

Regardless, my condolences to everyone involved. How tragic.

Posted by: thereasonableman on March 31 2008 1:21 AM

I am wondering if she crossed behind a larger vehicle going the other way. This would have blocked her view of the van and his view of her. The first thing I think when I look at the picture is that they apparently didn't see each other until the last split second. In any event, it's very tragic for everyone involved.