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Rally Calls for Open Door Talks on Forestry

By 250 News

Thursday, May 22, 2008 01:43 PM

 
Some of the protestors who gathered outside the Vanderhoof Friendship Centre  (photo Opinion250 staff)
 
Vanderhoof,  B.C. - Carrying signs that read “Our community is not for sale”; “roundtables are another way to keep workers from being part of any solution” and “If rules don’t change, the forest industry will die” about 100 people attended a rally outside the Friendship Centre in Vanderhoof today to raise awareness about the pain being felt in the community of Fort St. James.
 
Inside the Friendship Centre, Minister of Forests and Range Rich Coleman, was Chairing another Forestry Roundtable.
 
“We want to be part of the solution “ says rally organizer Winson Cheung a former employee of Pope and Talbot “We don’t think the meetings should be held behind closed doors.”
 
While members of the public have been invited to make submissions over the internet or by fax or e-mail, there is no opportunity for the public to personally address the Roundtable.
 
This session was supposed to have been held in Fort St. James, another of the B.C.  communities hit hard by the downturn in the forest industry. Like Mackenzie, the community of Fort St. James has watched its mills close and jobs disappear. “We don’t think anyone should be deciding our future for us” says Cheung.
 
Fort St. James has a rich history in the region as a trading post for the Hudson Bay Company, but despite the attraction of the historic Fort, one banner posed this question;
“Is Fort St. James History after 202 Years?”
 
This is the first time a roundtable session has been met by a rally, tomorrow the Roundtable moves to Mackenzie, and will face another rally.
 

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POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!
RALLY ON!!!!!!
Open door .... round table ..... square dance ....

Why has it taken this long to get anything like a round table, an open door, or a square dance out of the government?

The ACTION plan by the government of some 3+ years ago spelled events out quite clearly and they are now unfolding a bit more quickly than they thought since the MPB is not the main cause of this as much as the $ and the USA population realizing they really cannot afford the whopper sized houses they have been buying.
take a look around you ft st. jimmiers -what has the southern looters left behind except smallpox of yesteryear to the taxes of today? just like the aboriginals say holes in the ground and stumps in the bush ,to polluted water you drink and the air you breath. How about leaving a bouyant economy and healthy people- with some honest leaders this may be possible, look at the dismal track record of each government nothing to be proud of. I know a lot of jimmiers and know they will survive this latest round of mismanagement,wounded but still functioning honest people in spite of the southern bungling looters.
"The ACTION plan by the government of some 3+ years ago spelled events out quite clearly and they are now unfolding a bit more quickly than they thought since the MPB is not the main cause of this"

I agree, although one has to wonder if we what we are seeing now is the exact same thing we would've seen a few years from now if the US issues had not emerged and we just waited for MPB to run its course instead.

Afterall, did any group (employees, unions, businesses & governments) REALLY start preparing for the impacts of MPB on a significant scale or was it the standard case of "deal with it when we have to"? I sure don't get the sense there was much urgency on the part of anyone to really start making adjustments before the crunch hit. Given the fact that most everyone knew it was coming, it's mind boggling how little was done to start preparing for it. Just imagine how some early preparation, preparation that should have been done, could've helped the industry now.
441 Million Dollars today from Mining and Drilling Rights....wonder how much will find its way into the 250?
Might help pay the costs of all the "mining" and "drilling" going on in Vancouver with the 'Canada Line'.

Ah, no wonder Gordo's gang wanted to get rid of "appurtancey" clauses! And here we thought that just applied to forestry!
NMG ... I think one of the indicators of being prepared for the MPB portion of the impact is the amount of seedlings that are ready for planting this year. I my opinion, they should have increased. Instead they decreased. Those in the business as dumbfounded. We have increased AACs which, I believe, were generally cut unitl this year, yet the replanting has not occured. I do not know whether they will be relying on natural regeneration all of a sudden or waht the situation is.

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Since 250 is everything outside the GVRD 604 area, I would think most will find its way into work the ground in 250. Some will stay with companies that have their data analysis and management services in 604.
It is simple shu down the north road.No more logs for the mlls south of the fort.This is aown witha history of ot takig any s---.I hate to say it but someimes bad behavior gets more attention.Global/CTV they love showing the rcmp throwing people in jail.The crime the government sellout of the billion dollar taxbase of ft.st.James.Is it the mills are not compeditive or is it canfor/west fraser don't like the fact the people of ft.st james speak the truth. Why is it Sinclair Group closed there pg mill and the two mills nearest to the wood are running.Both are stud mills.Look at then verythin is i place
It is simple shu down the north road.No more logs for the mlls south of the fort.This is aown witha history of ot takig any s---.I hate to say it but someimes bad behavior gets more attention.Global/CTV they love showing the rcmp throwing people in jail.The crime the government sellout of the billion dollar taxbase of ft.st.James.Is it the mills are not compeditive or is it canfor/west fraser don't like the fact the people of ft.st james speak the truth. Why is it Sinclair Group closed there pg mill and the two mills nearest to the wood are running.Both are stud mills.Common sense is prevaling in some mills.It took a shut down of the bush in 99.to get attention.Canfor set terms for meetings and it took days,Apollo met in the rain at 11:00 at night on the line. They where running in hours.
Ya gotta give a thumbs up to the folks in F.S.J. They will stick together...they will weather this one. F.S.J. isn't goin anywheres....like the sign says....bin round for 202 years. We're all in the same boat.....the south is boomin...the north is grindin to a halt.....real quick.
I agree completely invisableman!
I think we are at a stage where the only way to get any results is to push back hard.
And if it takes civil disobedience to the extreme,so be it!
I think it is obvious by now that this Campbell government has no clear action plan and will continue to throw bones to the peons,rather than do anything concrete.
Because they really don't care,and the biggest mistake people in these smaller communities can make,is believing that they do.
In the end,we will only get what we fought for.
If these guy's are looking at us when they talk,they are probably going to lie to us,and if they are NOT looking us in the eye when they talk,they have probably already lied!
invisibleman and Andyfreeze... I think you both are on the right track! Let it be known exactly what is going on in Fort. We need some TV highlights on the CBC... seriously there is almost no media coverage on how bad Fort's situation really is. The Forest Minister wouldn't even come here. It might have been good for him to see it, Fort and Vanderhoof are two very different looking towns...

Push may have to come to shove!
invisibleman and Andyfreeze... I think you both are on the right track! Let it be known exactly what is going on in Fort. We need some TV highlights on the CBC... seriously there is almost no media coverage on how bad Fort's situation really is. The Forest Minister wouldn't even come here. It might have been good for him to see it, Fort and Vanderhoof are two very different looking towns...

Push may have to come to shove!
I sent an email to B.C.T.V trying to find out why there is so much focus on Mackenzie when things are every bit as bad in Fort St.James!
So far,no reply, but it might wake them up to the fact there are others who are hurting just as bad!
I still think that Mackenzie is getting the attention because of strong local leadership and Fort St.James does lack that.
It is also interesting to note that the Fort St.James Chamber of Commerce,who work very hard to support just about everything in the Fort,was dropped from the invite list to the round table in Vanderhoof.
Now why would they do that?
They are very vocal regarding the situation and maybe they pissed the politicians off?
I also see that they have invited someone from the Nak'azd'li band in Fort St.James to come to the annual general meeting to explain their opposition to the Mt.Milligan mine project, which is very much needed by Fort and Mackenzie communities both.
Could be very interesting indeed and long overdue,considering we are all in this together!
Time to raise a little hell!
Don't get too rowdy at your rallies. On feb 14, 2008 the feds signed a deal with the US stating if either country had any problems with "domestic disturbances", like maybe a protest rally when they start shipping our water, the other country's army could waltz right in. Why do you think they haven't cancelled the long gun registry.
THE YANKS ARE COMING !.......And they'll take the guns first.
I think the lack of coverage is Fort's own fault... I agree the leadership is lacking, but the people could still be trying to get the word out there... But i guess it's hard without some strong backing...
Time to get vocal I guess!
govsux "THE YANKS ARE COMING"

Maybe a good thing if we became the 51st state. Anything is better than what it is now.
I agree Voice,but that's human nature I think.
People get set in their ways, in their own comfortable worlds,and when everything starts to crash, they don't know how to deal with it or where to start looking for help and solutions.
And many are too proud to ask for even help, after always being able to look after themselves for so long.
That's when we all need to stick together.
People of the north are usually very independant!
So they wait for it to pass and everything to return to "normal" because it always did in the past.
But as we know,it doesn't always work that way in some situations and what we are dealing with now,IS one of those situations.
I still think the key to survival is strong leadership and a bit of attitude thrown in for good measure.
Mackenzie is a fine example of strong leadership!
And don't look to the government to help unless they are backed into a corner, because they won't.
They also knew this was coming, and did nothing to head things off at the pass!
A part of this mess is the result of bad government and poor policies as well, and yet they claim no responsibilty.
Now,they don't have a choice except to get involved, but we still need to stay in their face or they will very soon forget about it.
We also need to pay careful attention to what they are telling us, because they have been known to lie and tell people what they think they want to hear!
And that's what these rallys do.
We need to remember that they work for us,not the other way around!
Here's to better days for all concerned!